Yep, I had no idea I would start off with him. My favorite Hero since almost a decade; George. W. Bush. He has never failed to keep me amused all through. This guy has defied all logic and explanation that anyone could ever produce. He is a man termed as “the very worst president in all of American history ” by modern historians.
My hero ticked me off today. In stead of amusing me.
“War critics can no longer credibly argue that we are losing in Iraq, so now they argue the war costs too much. In recent months, we have heard exaggerated estimates of the costs of this war”.
Harvard University public finance expert Linda Bilmes has estimated the cost of this war at $3 trillion. If you were to throw $1 million into the sea everyday, it would take more than 2000 years to throw them all. Bush justified it all.
“The answers are clear to me, Removing Saddam Hussein from power was the right decision, and this is a fight America can and must win. No one would argue that this war has not come at a high cost in lives and treasure, but those costs are necessary when we consider the cost of a strategic victory for our enemies in Iraq”.
I wonder, what exactly is the definition of victory to Mr. Bush. People are dying everyday in Iraq, including U.S Soldiers. There is almost zero peace. The situation is same or worse than what it was during the Saddam Hussein era. I am glad that man is gone, but I wonder, what good has it done at all. The peace that Mr. Bush promised is no where in the horizon.
Seriously Sir, no one is listening to you. No one, except the insane.
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Over 8219 years, in fact. 2000 is a massive understatement. Just one more thing to be thrown to the eight foot pile of reasons W should classified an enemy combatant, hung, drawn and quartered, while his family watches (including the new in-law). Without trial, that is.
I mean, after all, I wonder if the terrorists are winning. Think about it, they’ve succeeded in dragging us into a wild goose chase of a war that has resulted in nothing but a big, fat budget deficit from day one. Whose side is this guy on, anyway?
I am going to stay aside and not comment. Want to keep free and fair.
Agreed. A big waste of money and no peace in sight. Well done Mr Bush!
great article, well said Al
I imagine people would have had the same complaints if the USA had tried to remove Idi Amin from power, or Stalin, Hitler, or Hirohito, or Mussolini. Oh, wait, we did remove Stalin, Hitler, Hirohito and Mussolini, and lost almost 700,000 soldiers doing it.
Saddam Hussein was a brutal dictator who slaughtered his own people. Mass graves are still being discovered.
So the UN inspectors didn’t find any weapons of mass destruction. God forbid that they should have looked anywhere in the miles and miles of desert, or even in hiding places outside Iraq’s borders. We all know that Saddam Hussein would never have asked his allies to assist him with hiding anything.
Good thing we stayed out of Argentina and let thousands of “disappeared ones” just vanish without trial. Their families don’t miss their loved ones as much as we would. Same thing for Peru and Nicaragua. Oh wait, we did help in Peru and Nicaragua, without losing any soldiers.
Good thing we aren’t trying to stop the genocide anywhere else in the world, like Darfur or Armenia, because costs would be very expensive. Oh, yes, we are pouring big bucks into trying to help the poor starving refugees.
I think the USA needs to concentrate on straightening out things here in the USA, but that doesn’t mean we should ever ignore the suffering of helpless, innocent people.
Fortunately, no matter how much “without a trial” rhetoric we hear by the ‘anti-Bush, foaming at the mouth radicals’ that’s not the way we do things in the USA. If we did, we’d have to “hang, draw and quarter” almost every member of Congress, plus all the supporters of the Iraq war who are realistically worried about Iran, Libya, the rest of the Middle East and all the people and countries around the world who HATE the USA and want to destroy it.
Obviously it’s going to take something bigger and more deadly than 9/11 before some people even begin to understand that there are people who HATE the USA and are plotting to destroy it.
I’m old enough to have seen some of this foaming at the mouth rhetoric and hatred run amok. JFK was assassinated for his efforts.
And even though I wasn’t alive at the time, SOME of the history books mention that John Wilkes Booth assassinated Abraham Lincoln for his efforts to free the slaves.
I’m NOT a fervent Bush supporter. I think he is a stumbling orator who often acts like a buffoon. He has people around him who have great influence over everything he says and does. But he is NOT a dictator who has ordered the genocide of an entire segment of his own people (no matter what Jeremiah Wright screams out from the pulpit).
People are going to have to STOP making these stupid “without a trial” statements if they ever expect to be taken seriously by anyone but Jeremiah Wright’s congregation.
What if we spent Iraq money on . . . alternate fuels, cancer cures, solar energy, fusion, sustainable jobs and industries, health care, solving black/white differences, better food supplies, better veterans care, better housing development, better city planning, better garbage treatment plants, topsoil recovery, better educational methods, shorter work weeks, safer streets, correctional services that work, preventing drug addiction, better working conditions, climate control, global warming prevention, nuclear power generation, city water supplies, or a more honest political system.
Would the military/industrial complex and the oil barons be better served? Probably not. Would the coupon clippers and dividend makers and stock players be better off? Would the well heeled rich be making more? Probably not, but who cares as long as we get yearly car model changes, whores for daughters, STD’s, soldier sons, higher divorce rates, easier women, cheap drugs, cheaper booze, bigger flashier houses and cars, newer fancier furniture, bigger diamond engagement rings, bigger motorcycles, faster boats, fancy vacations and rich, rich food. It’s the American way, love it or leave it!
Brennen Kingsland said
“I imagine people would have had the same complaints if the USA had tried to remove Idi Amin from power, or Stalin, Hitler, or Hirohito, or Mussolini. Oh, wait, we did remove Stalin, Hitler, Hirohito and Mussolini, and lost almost 700,000 soldiers doing it.”
Uh… Stalin was a terrible dictator just as bad as Hitler in every way, but he was on our side during that war, and we never removed him from power. Learn your damn history. I do agree, though that the “without a trial” stuff is bullshit. Bush is a fucking bad president, and he should be tried for war crimes and breaking international laws. The important part is tried, though, because ignoring due process of law is not cool. It’s the evil dictator thing to do.
wowww good article
Why is it that the person who brings sense to this subject (Brennan Kingsland) can speak eloquently without using foul language, but the person who objects to what she says uses language that people used to have the decency to not speak (at least not in mixed company).
Bush is far from the worst president in US history. He is doing the best anyone could when dealing with a terrorist attack on our country where over 3,000 innocent civilians were killed. If we hadn’t taken the war to the source of the problem, the terrorists would have killed thousands more here in the USA. They hate us and would like nothing more than to have the whole world under Islamic law.
Carol,
You see Bush has succeeded in ingraining his ideology in you. He has successfully implanted the thought in your mind that what he is doing is right. Congratulations, you are now able to see only one side of the coin.
Well written article.
Reading some of these comments, there are a few things that I would like to disagree with.
Carol, you seem to be forgetting exactly what this “war” is about. Yes, the original purpose was to conquer those that posed a threat to the US, but it has evolved from that into so much more.
The enemy has changed, the focus has not been on protecting the us for quite some time now. The focus is on rebuilding Iraq into a democracy, changing an entire country into something more acceptable, more similar to our own country.
Think about it this way…
The religion that these people were raised with teaches that violence is acceptable, that pain is glory. Our country is now in a battle to basically tell these people that their religion is wrong, and that the teachings they have devoted their lives to should not be followed.
Imagine what would happen if you walked into a catholic church and started telling all of the people in it that their god is bad. Telling them that they cannot do as the bible says, or they and their families will pay the price.
It isn’t a pretty picture, is it? This is the battle that is being fought right now though. Yes, the United States is hated, the same as the person who walked into the catholic church would be.
I do agree that something needed to be done to protect our nation after 9/11, but I disagree with the way that it is being done. There is no good reason for us to impose our laws and beliefs upon others in their own country. There is no end in sight, and there will never be until we can learn to defend ourselves without injuring others, and until we can learn to respect that which we don’t understand. Live and let live. Peace does not come from bullying, it comes from understanding.
i don’t think the war is about terrorism - i think it’s about trying to avert the impending collapse of the US economy by taking over a natural resource of real value, as opposed to the monopoly money the fed prints out every year.
If Bush and his ilk cared 1 tenth as much about the legal citizens of the United States as they care about war and pumping up the population by legal and illegal immigration We’d all be twice as well off. At least.
We went there to get rid of Saddam and get the WMD. Well, we got the WMD before we even went, and Saddam is gone.
We won.
Come home.
If we come home in 25 days, there will be chaos in Iraq. If we come home in 25 years, there will be chaos in Iraq.
The Iraqi people want us to go. Once we go, the Shiites and the Sunni will spend the first 24 hours of our being gone killing all those who are in Al Qaida.
They hate foreigner’s, American, Syrian, Saudi, or anyone else. They see Al Qaida as foreigners.
“Good thing we stayed out of Argentina and let thousands of “disappeared ones” just vanish without trial. Their families don’t miss their loved ones as much as we would. Same thing for Peru and Nicaragua. Oh wait, we did help in Peru and Nicaragua, without losing any soldiers.”
I’m from Argentina, and there’s a little thing you might have not heard from called Plan Condor. It was a coordinated plan between South American dictatorships to exterminate the “communist threat”. Guess which country trained the paramilitary forces used in said plan to kill and torture anyone who might be a commie? That’s right, the good ol’ USA. The coup in Chile had support from the CIA because the democratic president was a socialist. OF COURSE the US wouldn’t attack the South American dictatorships, they were the ones doing the dirty war against communism for them.
I’m not blaming the American people, but their goverment really needs to stop messing around with the world like is their goddamn toy.
They must really have some kind of memory eraser being used on the American people, because it seems like nobody remembers that 9/11 had NOTHING TO DO WITH IRAQ!! Does nobody remember Bin Laden? How can anyone say we are in Iraq to protect us from terrorists when we are there fighting people that were strictly fighting eachother and there was no sign that they were even thinking about fighting us, while we have left the country and person/group that actually did attack us alone to get their next attack ready?? Bush and our government really is actively trying to destroy our country and kill our people obviously, by putting all of our forces halfway across the world in between 2 forces shooting at eachother, so 1: our defense can get weakened or wiped out, 2: our attackers are left alone so they can get their next one built up, and 3: when they do attack, our defense is all gone so they can rain mayhem on US soil. Get a damn clue already zombies.
March 28th, 2008
I’m glad we don’t have a civil war in Iraq.
Just a bunch of civilian factions shooting at the US Installed government sometimes shooting back, and calling in Air Strikes from the Occupiers and occasionally some of the government troops refusing to shoot the civilians that are shooting at them, because they are ‘their brothers’.
You, no civil war here. Just move on folks.
If any of you out there still believe that Bin Laden was behind the 9/11 attacks, I suggest you watch the documentary “Loose Change”, its on the web for free.
The war in Iraq is a sham, its about oil and has always been about oil. The weapons of mass destruction, bringing Democracy to the people, blah blah blah is all a hoax. W was just finishing daddies work that was started in Desert Storm.
I’m from Canada, and proud to say that we have avoided all influence by Dubya and his cronies to participate in this horrendous atrocity that has been committed upon Iraq and it people.
Unfortunately we Canadians have been dragged into the Afghanistan fiasco, but we are moving towards strict deadlines to get the hell out of there too.
Just get the hell out of Iraq, and let the Iraqis settle their own civil war, and form their own government, not another puppet government placed by the US please. Remember the Sheik of Iran? You guys put him in there in the first place. I believe that you also gave Sadam most of his weapons of mass destruction that he used against the Iranians.
And regarding war crimes and possible retribution against the evil war mongers that are currently in power in the US, well, they’ve already taken care of that. Congress already passed legislation that absolves Bush and all his compatriots of any future prosecutions.